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Saturday 17th Oct 2009 09:02:14
Does 0.9 recurring = 1?

img_2758.jpgimg_2760.jpgimg_2762.jpgimg_2763.jpg This very question was bugging me recently (well, not that much). So, imagine you have 0.99999... followed by an infinite numbers of 9's. For the sake of brevity, I will use three dots to represent recurring. Hence, 0.9... = 0.9 followed by an infinite number of 9's. But does 0.9... = 1? On the face of it, you would think, "Erm, no. 0.9 recurring is very close to 1 but it's not actually 1." However, consider the following proof (many thanks to Tim for this):

Let s = 1 + x + x2 + ... + x{n - 1} (Equation 1)

Then (1 - x)s = 1 + x + x2 + ... + x{n - 1} - (x + x2 + ... + xn) = 1 - xn

So, if I divide both sides by (1 - x),

s =1 - xn  (provided x is not equal to 1)

1 - x

Now suppose -1 < x < 1. Then xn tends to 0 as n tends to infinity, so s tends to 1 / (1 - x) as n tends to infinity, i.e. 1 + x + x2 + ... (going on for ever) = 1 / (1 - x). Putting this down in an equation:

s =1  (for -1 < x < 1) (Equation 2)

1 - x

With me so far? I found it easiest to go through all of this on pen and paper. Anyway, assuming all this makes sense, we can solve the equation with a specific value of x. So, let's let x = 0.1 = 1 / 10.

So, according to equation 1:

s = 1 + x + x2 + ... + x{n - 1} = 1 + 0.1 + 0.01 + 0.001 + ... = 1.1... (that is, the 1's go on forever)

Also, according to equation 2, we have:

s = 1  (Equation 3)

1 - 0.1

Rearranging slightly, we get:

s = 10 / 9

But we already know what s is from above. s = 1.1..., so therefore:

1.1... = 10 / 9

Divide both sides by 10, hence: 0.1... = 1 / 9

Multiply both sides by 9, hence: 0.9... = 1

img_2749.jpgOf course, it should be obvious that this equation only holds when we have an infinite number of 9's (but surely that's implied by 'recurring'). Recall how we were able to exclude the xn term as this tended to zero as n tended to infinity (for -1 < x < 1). So perhaps our equation could also be written thus:

0.999999 (i.e. number of 9's = n) → 1 as n → ∞ (the right arrow symbol, →, denotes 'tends to' or 'approaches').

So, yes . . . I think 0.9 recurring does indeed equal 1. That's the weirdness of infinity, I guess.


Comments received:

  • Name: rob
  • IP address: 91.105.131.117
  • Date/time: Thursday 22nd October 2009 13:18:16
  • Comment: I got lost as soon as the stuff from Tim arrived. I guess that's why I gave up maths. Anyway, what a lovely photo of A****** in the local paper. I can understand that.
  • Name: maff
  • IP address: 86.154.105.187
  • URL: www.mnplusone.co.uk
  • Date/time: Wednesday 11th November 2009 18:58:26
  • Comment: Does this work?
    1/3 = 0.3...
    1/3 * 3 = 1
    0.3... * 3 = 0.9...
    so 0.9... = 1

    Or is that just silly?
  • Name: jonath
  • IP address: 192.168.0.111
  • Date/time: Saturday 14th November 2009 09:54:37
  • Comment: Well, I hate to say, "Yes, this is just silly," and, no offence and all but, yes, I think it is just silly. See, what Tim's proof was getting at is this: how can recurring be expressed mathematically? Say, as a series or something. You've still got the 0.3 recurring in the first line but what is 0.3 recurring? You see?!
  • Name: maff
  • IP address: 86.154.105.187
  • URL: www.mnplusone.co.uk
  • Date/time: Monday 23rd November 2009 22:10:38
  • Comment: In answer to You see?! - yes and no.
    I can't really elaborate - except maybe 'expressed' is a good word.
  • Name: jonath
  • IP address: 192.168.0.111
  • Date/time: Thursday 26th November 2009 21:09:51
  • Comment: Yep, let's leave it at that. Expressed is indeed a good word, and it acquires a whole new significance (and meaning, possibly) when used in the context of lactation. Great.

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